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PostPosted: 2004-10-09 14:42:26
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As a long time 18866 user I phoned the USA tonight expecting to be
told it was 1p a minute. Instead I got the message that it was 2p a
minute, and the same when I called a mobile in the States.

Checked the website and it said 2p for landlines in the States and the
box was blank for mobiles.

Is this the beginning of the end for unbelievably cheap phonecalls on
18866? I know that you can get 1/2p a minute to US landlines with
1899 but I think the companies are related so is that going to come to
an end too? 1/2p a minute must be well below cost.


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PostPosted: 2004-10-09 22:12:01
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Ed wrote:
> As a long time 18866 user I phoned the USA tonight expecting to be
> told it was 1p a minute. Instead I got the message that it was 2p a
> minute, and the same when I called a mobile in the States.
>
> Checked the website and it said 2p for landlines in the States and the
> box was blank for mobiles.
>
> Is this the beginning of the end for unbelievably cheap phonecalls on
> 18866? I know that you can get 1/2p a minute to US landlines with
> 1899 but I think the companies are related so is that going to come to
> an end too? 1/2p a minute must be well below cost.

Not surprising when you consider that they only receive 1p for a UK landline
call no matter how long you talk for. They are probably cross-subsidising UK
calls from International calls. New Zealand has gone to 2p now as well.


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PostPosted: 2004-10-10 00:06:38
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Ed wrote in message
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> As a long time 18866 user I phoned the USA tonight expecting to be
> told it was 1p a minute. Instead I got the message that it was 2p a
> minute, and the same when I called a mobile in the States.
>
> Checked the website and it said 2p for landlines in the States and the
> box was blank for mobiles.
>
> Is this the beginning of the end for unbelievably cheap phonecalls on
> 18866? I know that you can get 1/2p a minute to US landlines with
> 1899 but I think the companies are related so is that going to come to
> an end too? 1/2p a minute must be well below cost.

I think the prices will go up and down often, as they buy in bulk the
capicity, now if the available capicity to buy in is lower, then the cost will
be higher.


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PostPosted: 2004-10-10 01:59:31
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:06:38 +0100, {{{{Welcome}}}}
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>Ed wrote in message
>news:8b3484b4.0410091342.103d143d@posting.google.com...
>> As a long time 18866 user I phoned the USA tonight expecting to be
>> told it was 1p a minute. Instead I got the message that it was 2p a
>> minute, and the same when I called a mobile in the States.
>>
>> Checked the website and it said 2p for landlines in the States and the
>> box was blank for mobiles.
>>
>> Is this the beginning of the end for unbelievably cheap phonecalls on
>> 18866? I know that you can get 1/2p a minute to US landlines with
>> 1899 but I think the companies are related so is that going to come to
>> an end too? 1/2p a minute must be well below cost.
>
>I think the prices will go up and down often, as they buy in bulk the
>capicity, now if the available capicity to buy in is lower, then the cost will
>be higher.
>
I think that 1p a minute to call a mobile in the States must be below
cost price. I dont think you could phone a mobile that cheaply if
you lived in the country. What I worry is that having gained the
customers 18866 may start to increase their call prices so that they
are not making losses on quite so many calls. I mean 1p for a UK
landline call for however long you call is great, but it cannot last.


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PostPosted: 2004-10-10 11:23:13
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Ed wrote in message
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> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:06:38 +0100, {{{{Welcome}}}}
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Ed wrote in message
> >news:8b3484b4.0410091342.103d143d@posting.google.com...
> >> As a long time 18866 user I phoned the USA tonight expecting to be
> >> told it was 1p a minute. Instead I got the message that it was 2p a
> >> minute, and the same when I called a mobile in the States.
> >>
> >> Checked the website and it said 2p for landlines in the States and the
> >> box was blank for mobiles.
> >>
> >> Is this the beginning of the end for unbelievably cheap phonecalls on
> >> 18866? I know that you can get 1/2p a minute to US landlines with
> >> 1899 but I think the companies are related so is that going to come to
> >> an end too? 1/2p a minute must be well below cost.
> >
> >I think the prices will go up and down often, as they buy in bulk the
> >capicity, now if the available capicity to buy in is lower, then the cost
will
> >be higher.
> >
> I think that 1p a minute to call a mobile in the States must be below
> cost price. I dont think you could phone a mobile that cheaply if
> you lived in the country. What I worry is that having gained the
> customers 18866 may start to increase their call prices so that they
> are not making losses on quite so many calls. I mean 1p for a UK
> landline call for however long you call is great, but it cannot last.

Dont forget that in the states it costs the same to call a landline as it
does to call a mobile, because it is the recipient mobile users that picks up
the cost of receiving the call, like we do if we are roaming.

This is why many Americans still rely heavily on pagers.


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PostPosted: 2004-10-10 13:21:22
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On 9 Oct 2004 14:42:26 -0700, Ed wrote:
> Is this the beginning of the end for unbelievably cheap phonecalls on
> 18866?

There are often alternatives though: http://www.niftylist.co.uk/ (usually
offered by the same people interestingly enough).

(btw, in the light of Eds post, the website needs updating)

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After enlightenment / chopping wood / carrying water
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PostPosted: 2004-10-10 20:30:05
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:23:13 +0100, {{{{Welcome}}}}
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>Dont forget that in the states it costs the same to call a landline as it
>does to call a mobile, because it is the recipient mobile users that picks up
>the cost of receiving the call, like we do if we are roaming.
>
>This is why many Americans still rely heavily on pagers.
>
i know two people in the States with mobiles (or cell phones).

The first can receive calls for free when he is in his area but once
he goes outside of it he has to pay.

The second can receive calls for free after 9pm at night (US time) and
at the weekend.

I just thought they were on odd packages. Utterly mad how backward
the Americans are on some things. Broadband can be a lot more
expensive as well.


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PostPosted: 2004-10-10 22:18:55
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http://www.ratebuster.co.uk are offering 1p/min to USA mobiles....


Ed wrote in message
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> As a long time 18866 user I phoned the USA tonight expecting to be
> told it was 1p a minute. Instead I got the message that it was 2p a
> minute, and the same when I called a mobile in the States.
>
> Checked the website and it said 2p for landlines in the States and the
> box was blank for mobiles.
>
> Is this the beginning of the end for unbelievably cheap phonecalls on
> 18866? I know that you can get 1/2p a minute to US landlines with
> 1899 but I think the companies are related so is that going to come to
> an end too? 1/2p a minute must be well below cost.


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