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PostPosted: 2008-05-12 19:18:28
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> On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:56:05 +0100, John wrote:
>
>> Darren wrote:
>>> On Friday I moved into a flat of 2 years old.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately no previous tenants have bothered to have the phone line
>>> connected - therefore although there are sockets already on the walls,
>>> BT say a 124.99 connection charge is payable.
>>>
>>> This is a real shame, since I only need it for internet access and the
>>> only other alternative is mobile access, which isnt ideal and may cost
>>> the same in the long run.
>>>
>>> Anyway of waiving the charge? What if i had a line at another property
>>> and did a moving home job?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>
>> You just happen to have dropped lucky - until the end of June its 30
>> http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/public/current/Notice08 boo/
> SNL21-08.pdf
>>
>> However, I cannot stand whingers who think that the charge of 124.99 is
>> too much. Whether you only want it for internet or not, a phone line is
>> a phone line. And how do you think the little white box got there, in
>> your flat, in the first place?
>>
>> You say that the flat is 2 years old ( the fact that previous tenents
>> didnt have the line activated isnt relevant), so that means that work
>> to get that telephone socket on the wall started at least two years
>> before that.
>>
>> Various planning departments, both council and BT will have been
>> involved in getting wayleaves, planning exchange capacity, planning
>> cable routes etc., etc. Then trenching will have been dug and ducting
>> will have to have been laid underground and cabling gangs will have had
>> to install new cabling, with cable jointers coming along behind.
>>
>> The builder and/or electrician will have installed the wiring internally
>> in your flat, fitted the wall socket and wired back to the termination
>> point in a services cupboard somewhere - and BT will have had to pay for
>> that, they dont get it free.
>>
>> And what does your 124.99 give you? It gives you a gateway to the world.
>> 124.99 will not even fill my cars petrol tank twice (67 empty to full).
>
> Whilst your sentiments are understandable I dont see that the cost of
> network provision should be the responsibility of the end user.
>
> In most instances on new-builds the network pre-wiring is done and little
> more than two crimps and a visit is needed. I agree that BT have paid for
> this infrastructure to be placed, but under their operators licence they
> have an obligation in law to provide it.
>
> Perhaps if they did not waste all that money pre-wiring such buildings,
> they could bring the cost down from over a ton for a provide. I dont
> recall the cable companies running to Ł125 for a residential provide -
> AFAIR. Ł125 is not an attractive price to pay to connect a line.
>
> Do the Electricity Board charge the end user to hook up a meter and
> supply in the same new build, connecting to the mains wiring provided by
> the same electrician that wired up the phone socket?

They certainly do charge and considerably more than BT do.

> Im sure you paid a line rental fee the last time I looked, not a
> outright purchase for the bloody cable they have had to lay to make a
> profit from you.


In most cases the charge is much less than the direct costs incurred to do
the work. If it was not charged then the rental cost would be much higher.

Peter Crosland


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