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PostPosted: 2007-10-18 22:12:41
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http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/mca/

Ofcoms Consultation on the introduction of mobile services on
aircraft briefly mentions the behavioural problems this is expected
to cause, and gives the impression that Ofcom is simply going to
ignore them.


A4.5 Some consumers have suggested that the use of mobiles during
flight will irritate other passengers and compromise their comfort and
welfare. They argue that aircraft in flight are one of the few places
where mobile phones are not permitted and that this immunity should be
preserved. Some of their concerns stem from the prospect of a long
journey sitting next to someone speaking loudly on their mobile.

A4.6 However there are many ways in which some passengers can annoy
others, and in these cases it is a matter for airlines and aircraft
operators how to balance the services they offer to their passengers
with the impact that they have. An example is the serving of alcohol
on board, which can lead to disruptive behaviour. Airlines have
developed procedures for dealing with negative consequences of
alcohol; but many have decided that, with these safeguards, alcohol
remains a valued part of their service. It is likely that similar
procedures will be developed to deal with any negative impact of
mobile phone use. The CAA in the UK and similar organisations in other
countries assess and certify the effectiveness and suitability of
onboard procedures like these.


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PostPosted: 2007-10-18 22:29:38
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Adam Funk wrote in message
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> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/mca/
>
> Ofcoms Consultation on the introduction of mobile services on
> aircraft briefly mentions the behavioural problems this is expected
> to cause, and gives the impression that Ofcom is simply going to
> ignore them.

I think If we are honest with ourselves it comes down to our natural
auditory voyeurism. I mean its frustrating to only hear one side
of a private conversation.

A similar argument can be made about the Walkman (or whatever
they are called now). Its difficult to identify music just with the bass
line.

In short, these things dont bother me on a noisy train or aircraft.


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PostPosted: 2007-10-18 22:33:29
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:12:41 +0100, Adam Funk
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>http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/mca/
>
>Ofcoms Consultation on the introduction of mobile services on
>aircraft briefly mentions the behavioural problems this is expected
>to cause, and gives the impression that Ofcom is simply going to
>ignore them.

I see no problem with this, as long as they go outside with the
smokers.

(2 years+ non-smoking, 3 years+ non-flying, non-mobile user)



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PostPosted: 2007-10-18 21:37:50
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> I see no problem with this, as long as they go outside with the
> smokers.
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> (2 years+ non-smoking, 3 years+ non-flying, non-mobile user)


just curious, how come you subscribe to a mobile group if you dont use one?


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PostPosted: 2007-10-18 22:48:14
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:37:50 GMT, Sheila
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>> I see no problem with this, as long as they go outside with the
>> smokers.
>>
>> (2 years+ non-smoking, 3 years+ non-flying, non-mobile user)
>
>
>just curious, how come you subscribe to a mobile group if you dont use one?

I dont subscribe to uk.telecom.mobile, just to uk.telecom

Anyway, you dont have to own one to be interested, Ive worked on
Bluetooth and GSM software and still develop and sell software into
the mobile telecoms market.



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PostPosted: 2007-10-19 00:19:05
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Adam Funk wrote in message
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> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/mca/
>
> Ofcoms Consultation on the introduction of mobile services on
> aircraft briefly mentions the behavioural problems this is expected
> to cause, and gives the impression that Ofcom is simply going to
> ignore them.

Why should Ofcom be concerned about such things? It is a matter for the
airline to decide if they want to allow their customere to be annoyed.

Crikey, is there any area of our lives free from government regulation?

Gaz


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PostPosted: 2007-10-19 09:01:19
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Adam Funk wrote in message
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> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/mca/
>
> Ofcoms Consultation on the introduction of mobile services on
> aircraft briefly mentions the behavioural problems this is expected
> to cause, and gives the impression that Ofcom is simply going to
> ignore them.
>

Will they work once the plane has taken off? I thought all the ground based
aerials were designed to radiate broadly in a horizontal plane and not
upwards, and that their range is generally limited by power considerations.
Being in a metal tube with quite small windows wont help either! So I
suspect well be safe once the plane gets above 20,000 feet or so. I
understood previous experiments had been conducted with satellite phones,
with the airline hiring then out for the journey.

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PostPosted: 2007-10-19 08:33:03
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>Adam Funk wrote in message
>news:9ruku4-kc.ln1@news.ducksburg.com...
>> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/mca/
>>
>> Ofcoms Consultation on the introduction of mobile services on
>> aircraft briefly mentions the behavioural problems this is expected
>> to cause, and gives the impression that Ofcom is simply going to
>> ignore them.
>>
>
>Will they work once the plane has taken off? I thought all the ground based
>aerials were designed to radiate broadly in a horizontal plane and not
>upwards, and that their range is generally limited by power considerations.
>Being in a metal tube with quite small windows wont help either! So I
>suspect well be safe once the plane gets above 20,000 feet or so. I
>understood previous experiments had been conducted with satellite phones,
>with the airline hiring then out for the journey.

Im under the impression that the aircraft would be carrying a pico
cell device which the phones would roam to - that would then relay
the calls via sattelite... So expect very large roaming bills!

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre/pressreleases/pressreleases items/15 Sep
04 Airbus Successfully.html

Gordon


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